On this episode of the IoT For All Podcast, Ryan Chacon is joined by David Ly, the CEO of Iveda, to debate the evolution of IoT. They speak about AI and IoT and their affect on society, AI and IoT safety and privateness, and the present state of sensible metropolis deployment.
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David Ly is the visionary founding father of Iveda, having served as CEO and Chairman of the Board of Administrators for the reason that firm’s inception in 2003. With over 20 years of expertise in wi-fi information, mobile, IT, and cloud video surveillance, David has constructed a pioneering cloud video internet hosting and real-time surveillance infrastructure with use circumstances throughout the globe.
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Iveda (NASDAQ:IVDA) is the supplier of world options for cloud-based, video AI search and surveillance applied sciences that shield the folks, locations, and issues that matter probably the most. Iveda’s expertise has the ability to offer immediate intelligence to present infrastructure, enabling cities and organizations world wide to seamlessly enter the fifth industrial revolution. Iveda operates on the forefront of digital transformation of cities the world over, utilizing IoT platforms with sensible sensors and units developed to help with use circumstances surrounding public security, safety, aged care, power effectivity, and atmosphere preservation.
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– [Ryan] Hi there everybody and welcome to a different episode of the IoT For All Podcast. I’m Ryan Chacon, and on at present’s episode, we’re going to be centered on speaking in regards to the evolution of IoT, how AI is coming into the IoT house, affect on society that these applied sciences are going to have, privateness and safety issues, a complete lot of subjects that I believe you’ll discover quite a lot of worth in.
With me at present will likely be David Ly, the CEO of Iveda. They’re an organization that could be a supplier in international options for cloud primarily based video AI search and surveillance applied sciences. In case you are watching this on YouTube, please like this video and subscribe to our channel when you’ve not achieved so already. When you’re listening to this on a podcast listing, we’d actually recognize it when you’d subscribe to see the most recent episodes as quickly as they’re out.
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It’s scalable, platform appropriate, and delivers a speedy return on funding. Go to troverlo.com, that’s t r o v e r l o dot com, now and harness the ability of Autonomo to remodel your IT division. Welcome David to the IoT For All Podcast. Thanks for being right here this week.
– [David] Superior. Thanks Ryan for having me, man.
– [Ryan] Yeah, completely. Tremendous excited to speak.
Earlier than we get into it, I’d adore it when you may give a fast introduction about your self and the corporate to our viewers.
– [David] I’m David Ly, CEO and Founding father of Iveda. And I based Iveda again in 2003, so actually 20 years in the past. And I personally, I’m a civil engineer by schooling, actually not by commerce. By the point I graduated, I fell fortuitously into the period of the dot com again in San Jose, California. In order that’s the place my expertise background and expertise actually began is with all of the early dot coms and the expansion of the the period of the web and information consolidation, et cetera.
On condition that, I superior in my profession, not as a civil, completely outdoors of self-discipline, I went into wi-fi networking. With an exquisite firm again in late 1999 into the early 2000 out of San Jose, California. We have been one of many first corporations, however their title was Ricochet, in case anyone’s eager about historical past.
One of many first corporations that had huge space wi-fi connectivity. And guys, you understand what meaning is, we’re so used to our 5G at present and Wi Fi at present. Again then we had a modem about this massive velcro to the again of our laptop computer and, with a serial port screw in, USB was not even round again then.
And guess what? We acquired on-line with Juno, Go America, Prodigy. That is how early web I acquired began in. Quick ahead. With that background. Right here in Arizona, I met a bodily safety firm and the possession there, and it simply dawned on him that if they’ll confirm an incident remotely or at one other geographical location earlier than they despatched out an individual in a automobile, that may be fantastic. Now thoughts you that is 2003, 2005, web was nonetheless T1, T3. We have been one of many first corporations, Ryan, that did distant IP video evaluation in actual time. Now IP video cameras have been 900 bucks a digital camera again then, not 59.99 on Amazon, proper?
Not it was a logitech webcam. So we, Iveda was one of many first corporations that did distant video monitoring. Which means we had a managed web IP video, and we had dwell people watching a digital camera on behalf of the shoppers. In order that’s how we acquired began and after a decade and two, Iveda advanced at present to what you understand of us at present.
From our background of massive information administration, dealing with and streaming. We needed to discover a means of constructing that extra environment friendly. Human labor in evaluate and assessments, too costly. Right here it comes. In 2014, we utilized one thing referred to as machine studying, and we taught the machines easy methods to search for sure objects throughout the plethora of knowledge that we had from our clients.
So that is the evolution of Iveda AI. That is the place our AI video analytics was spawned and our go to market at present and what makes us sturdy is leveraging our progress and the expertise. And going again to IoT now’s info sensor information now has intelligence behind it. In order that, that in a nutshell is Iveda, an AI IoT sensible metropolis firm.
– [Ryan] Unbelievable. Very thrilling background too. You’ve been, you’ve seen the evolution of issues, actually been within the trenches, understanding, taking part in with constructing applied sciences from the early days to now. Let me ask you, because it relates notably to IoT, clearly we have been, this was M2M, now it’s IoT.
I’ve been within the house for about seven years. It’s grown. It’s modified quite a bit. It’s advanced quite a bit. What has, inform our viewers somewhat bit about the way you’ve seen the evolution of IoT. Not must, it may be one thing like simply excessive degree it for viewers what you’ve seen from the start until now.
And now we’re, as a result of we’re proper now we’re stepping into the AI integration into IoT them coming collectively to offer much more worth now that we now have entry to all this information that IoT options are capable of accumulate. However simply discuss us by means of the evolution that you just’ve seen.
– [David] Yeah, certain. Most just lately the corporate Iveda has gotten concerned in sensible energy, sensible energy administration for our sensible metropolis options. However why I begin with energy, this segues into the entire IoT spectrum is that I do know from an early engineering faculty, again then we talked about, I used to be at school within the nineties, however we talked about seventies, eighties the place the ability corporations and the phone corporations already had sensors all through their traces that,, the switch traces, in order that they’ll measure sure energy and even temperature of the transmission only for security. Now that’s what IoT is. It’s all the time been there. It’s been round, proper? Gadget sensors and information, however the distinction, and I’ve seen the evolution Ryan, is all the best way up till very just lately, the information got here to us after which it was us once more and all the information and the evaluation needed to occur manually. After which we had to attract upon with the given variables, completely different fashions to offer us the information that we have to make selections with, proper? So whether or not it’s climate, temperature, strain, sensors and units have all the time been round and actually that’s the idea of IoT. Evolution, I’ve seen so many extra sensors from the nice previous days of the RadioShack, open closed door sensors to now we’ve acquired espresso darkness.
It’s what’s taking place is there’s much more element concerned. And this segues into, given all this element of knowledge and the benefit of assortment now due to the evolution of simply the web typically, proper? Web of issues are starting to only make extra sense. Earlier than, it was simply extra very skilled, industrial, business.
However at present, you, me, our youngsters, hey, we contact it on a regular basis now.
– [Ryan] Yeah, with out even realizing typically. Yeah, with out even realizing it.
– [David] With out even realizing it. Appropriate. So I see now that it’s extra widespread than we notice. That’s my expertise with IoT. And individuals are talking about it extra, the phrases getting used extra. So it’s extra prevalent at present.
– [Ryan] I believe corporations are additionally beginning to actually see the worth of those applied sciences and options and what it may well do for his or her enterprise and entry to information they didn’t have entry to earlier than make, to assist them make higher selections, sooner selections. And we’re beginning to now compile AI on high of that, proper?
We’ve entry to this information so we are able to herald these AI fashions to offer extra worth. In deciphering, understanding, analyzing the information. How have you ever seen, many of the, from a public perspective, many of the conversations round AI are linked to generative AI instruments, speaking about ChatGPT, issues that individuals can go and play with and contact themselves.
However AI has been working its approach into IoT for some time now. The place do you see or how do you see AI coming into IoT and the affect that has on society and the customers of those units, sensors, and options?
– [David] I’ve acquired a terrific situation I believe that can assist give our listeners or viewers a really clear, actual world perspective. From expertise right here, Iveda, the corporate, we now have this resolution referred to as IvedaCare. Now I’ll attempt to break this down. It sounds fancy, however what it’s, Ryan, is a package that again within the day, we might most likely use the time period sensible house, and I’ll even go additional, RadioShack had door sensors, window sensors, alarm sensors, movement sensors, proper?
However when you take a collective of all these fantastic sensors, and also you simply add on somewhat bit extra like moisture, humidity, temperature, and you place this right into a setting the place you might have a dementia care affected person or simply grandma, grandpa at house alone. Prior to now, these sensors solely supplied set off alerts when one thing bodily triggered every sensor.
Temperature too excessive, door open, window closed, movement in a hallway. Now, answering your query. AI is available in, into that very same atmosphere. That is the way it’s serving to society at present. With present infrastructure, this is essential and the best worth I imagine of AI. Leveraging present IoT infrastructure.
AI now is available in and is sensible of all these alerts. As an alternative of you and I simply getting a ding each time a door opens, the AI is sensible sufficient to grasp what’s regular and what’s not regular after which solely alerts on what we name abnormality. Hey, grandma, get off the bed, which is ok. However getting off the bed, shifting into the hallway, after which not showing both on the restroom, the lounge, or the kitchen in a couple of seconds or minutes, it may imply that she might have fallen.
That’s AI. So it’s that information processing and evaluation achieved in cut up seconds, after which including widespread sense to that in a novel approach, provides you and I the information factors that may be extra helpful to us.
– [Ryan] And the way have you ever seen, I do know you all play a task in on the subject of safety and completely different options associated to safety, which as you’re speaking about this instance, from on the subject of growing old in place options, aged care options. There’s a privateness level that always will get introduced up after we’re speaking about accumulating information after which when AI is coming in how that’s additionally going to have an effect on privateness and safety issues. How have you ever all out of your perspective seen organizations finest deal with and stability that safety and privateness issues with AI, bringing in AI and IoT applied sciences into their enterprise to nonetheless be to have the answer be worthwhile and the information be helpful, however the those who there could also be , monitoring, accumulating information from are usually not vulnerable to being uncovered on a private degree or making certain you’re adhering to these privateness essential issues.
– [David] Yeah. The privateness concern, particularly for a video surveillance startup firm 20 years in the past, it’s nothing new to us. That’s one of many greatest issues and conversations I’ve had is all through the years is privateness. However on condition that, the expertise that I’ve additionally engaged with our finish customers, each, from all walks of industries, from personal enterprise house owners to enterprise and even authorities companies and municipalities. Although we’re all eager and conscious that there’s a public concern of privateness, as a practitioner, we, the truth is the information that’s being consumed or the information that’s being so referred to as collected is already flowing in many of the environments that we exist in, Ryan. We’re not going on the market punching a gap, tapping anyone, or doing something. It’s about making sense of the information that presently already surrounds all of us.
Instance. All of us take as a right that the shops we stroll in, Walmart, all the pieces like that’s by selection, timing, location, all of that’s thought-about information collected by the group and the way they use it inside that’s to enhance security, effectivity, operational effectiveness, and naturally, elevated income.
No hurt to anyone. However whenever you speak about video and seeing folks’s faces and what they’re doing in public areas, once more, there’s all the time two sides to each story however taking precautions, I’ve discovered from our companions on the market within the area is is frankly the information that’s flowing in now with the help of AI is definitely safer.
And I’m going to attempt to add some coloration to that. Prior to now, it will take a human. It all the time, the human is all the time the troublemaker right here, proper? Not the expertise. I’ll converse to that. It all the time concerned a human doing one thing foul. It’s an emotional resolution to take motion, good, unhealthy, or ugly. I imagine that with the help and good thing about AI, the AI is being requested to do a really particular activity.
And when that activity says, alert me when a harmful abnormality arises. So many automobiles piled up and caught in a single spot, that’s an abnormality. Somebody holding one thing, a weapon, that’s an abnormality. Frankly, that’s the solely time that the human at present will even take note of that piece of knowledge.
What we, the misperception is that there’s, we’re all involved about our privateness and what we’re doing as we’re roaming across the streets. The truth is all of the group that I’ve engaged prior to now 20 years should not have sufficient time nor useful resource to care about us, Ryan. All of us suppose we’re so particular and essential.
Nobody has sufficient time to be nosy. However then to be nosy, it’s the human. So that is actually superior that AI can now help the monitoring of essential conditions for security, effectivity, and we are able to depend on that now greater than we are able to a human. I do know that’s going to be an issue, however that’s actuality that I’m seeing on the market.
I’m a complete expertise proponent.
– [Ryan] And let me ask you. In order we get away away from simply safety facet of issues on the subject of privateness, we additionally been seeing clearly elevated adoption in communities and cities the place folks dwell, proper? And new applied sciences are being applied to offer higher experiences to municipalities, to the residents of sure communities in these sensible cities.
The place are, out of your perspective and the work that you just all do, the place are we proper now with sensible metropolis adoption but in addition schooling for individuals who are interacting with these new options, whether or not it’s the person or the residents and residents of those communities, understanding their worth, understanding what they do, why they’re there, and the way it’s hopefully offering a profit.
– [David] That’s a giant query. I’m gonna attempt to encapsulate it right here. Sensible metropolis adoption, I must say sensible metropolis consciousness is selecting up dramatically. Adoption continues to be at a not so favorable tempo proper now, for my part, and there’s nothing mistaken with that. And what meaning is, you requested about schooling.
That’s essential. Educating the stakeholders and practitioners. I believe that’s ramping up. The builders, the events which are deploying the expertise and the purposes, I believe that, there, that group is now extra conscious. Extra conscious signifies that they lastly at present perceive the expertise that’s concerned and the purposes that do happen as a way to formulate a worthwhile finish results of some sort.
Now I’m encapsulating quite a bit, however the place this goes is that this. We are saying sensible metropolis. To ensure that a metropolis to be sensible, all of its phase of present infrastructure, the roads, the gasoline traces, the ability traces, the water traces, all the pieces that we see from avenue lights, air conditioners in our buildings, computerized doorways that open at Disneyland, and so forth.
Have you learnt all of that’s sensor accessible? IoT. All interconnected. As soon as they’re actually interconnected, once more, it’s nothing new for we, the residents. It’s already there. It’s in existence. The profit now is a great metropolis turns into sensible when it may well collect all of this information that’s already flying amongst us.
I’m gonna come again to that story. Sensors are already submitting info someplace. It’s finest that if a metropolis is receiving this info and information, that they’ve some technique of group or else it will be ineffective to you and I as residents of town. Some concern that if a metropolis has all this info, they’ll know all our motion.
No, they don’t care about who you and I are. What we’re caring about is the group at giant, the entire. So as soon as we now have temperature, as soon as we now have climate, we now have visitors situations, the place it piles up, the place it’s mild, we as drivers and as residents, we sit in visitors and go, Oh my God, why are they doing development now?
Can’t they do it at evening? Man, why don’t they broaden this? All of the issues that we complain about, a wise metropolis actually is designed to scale back these kinds of burdens on us if we give it an opportunity. So the place I see sensible metropolis evolve, I’ve been out of nation in Southeast Asia, Center East, Africa, and you understand what, the overseas international locations, growing international locations I see, are adopting sensible metropolis at a way more speedy tempo than we the developed nations.
Why is that? It’s an obligation. Site visitors sucks, infrastructure sucks, they can’t construct new. Nobody can construct new. So it’s important to benefit from present infrastructure and get, and, you understand, the previous adage, work smarter, not more durable. So these international locations are obligated to work smarter as a way to fulfill the providers that’s required by the residents to do extra and be extra protected.
Adoption right here within the States, it’s sluggish. It’s sluggish. However, I believe consciousness is very elevated and due to that consciousness is the place we’re getting the query of oh my gosh, privateness points.
– [Ryan] There’s all the time going to be a gaggle that has a difficulty with change. Every municipality is so completely different on the subject of finances resistance to new expertise adoption. So it’s powerful, I believe for us to see the or I suppose it makes, I perceive why adoption has been slower than I believe we needed it to be on the subject of sensible metropolis options.
Nevertheless it’s essential for folks to know that these are oftentimes constructed with the very best intentions in thoughts to make the expertise higher, to gather information with out having to hassle the residents of the group, and have sufficient, have entry to the information that they’ll make selections extra rapidly to once more enhance that have for the people who find themselves dwelling day after day.
So it’s been a subject that’s come up since I joined the IoT world, simply seeing the evolution of sensible cities, sure, I really feel prefer it has not grown as rapidly as some anticipated, however the very, I’m nonetheless very optimistic on what will be achieved and what this may do for the standard of life in numerous communities.
– [David] High quality of life is the largest promoting level, proper? And the largest advertising phrases that we hear and however on the again finish, somebody that’s working to really deploy this expertise, once more, I converse with you solely from the expertise that I’ve, the place the business’s going, the place the conceptual ideas are going is one factor, however I’m working with cities proper now, Ryan, which are leveraging present infrastructure.
And I’m going to say that quite a bit. There’s electrical energy is required for lots of issues to energy our buildings, however think about this. Within the streets, there’s one thing referred to as streetlights. Streetlights are already present infrastructure with energy provide to it. You know the way fantastic IoT and AI performs to, into present infrastructure now?
The growing international locations leveraging the place they work so laborious to get a pole up and electrical traces to can now add on to that present pole sensors. And what can we, what are these sensors? Sensors not solely to make their lights extra environment friendly, activate and off solely when essential. In order that’s energy effectivity.
However past that, you might have climate stations that may be added to that. And now, in fact, cameras that may be added to that. Behind all these IoT sensors and video methods, the system now will assist residents. That present infrastructure has simply elevated higher visitors circulation, info and administration.
It simply elevated public security by having the general public perceive that these cameras listed here are defending you day and evening and officers have entry to them fairly than strolling off in a boondock someplace. That little instance of how a wise metropolis deployment or implementation can virtually instantly improve the lives of the native present residents, not simply normal ideas.
So I’m a giant proponent for that. I’ve seen it. After which there are cities that have quite a lot of flooding in main climate that we don’t expertise right here too typically. It’s that sensor. It’s that very same sensible metropolis sensors that may now detect abnormalities that say, hey, this avenue is, will likely be flooded in X quantity of hours.
That is the place expertise comes into play that has a really direct affect to the advantages of the citizen. In order that’s why you need a sensible metropolis. And for the little issues I simply described to you, there’s a lot extra.
– [Ryan] Your level in regards to the lighting fixtures within the present infrastructure has been one thing that has undoubtedly come up earlier than and never only for completely different sensors, but in addition for gateways to broaden protection and to, I do know we talked to folks within the LoRa world and so they speak about completely different, having the ability to deploy LoRa gateways and connectivity to a city, to a metropolis, and utilizing these lighting fixtures as locations to broaden protection.
So it’s a terrific thought to make the most of that present infrastructure to do precisely what you’re saying, which is to permit a number of options to be deployed, to gather extra information, to do issues which are higher for everybody concerned. It’s a really fascinating house to comply with, to proceed to see new cities undertake completely different applied sciences …
– [David] You introduced up a great level, sure. On the spot enhancement of communication and web entry, proper? Simply including on to the wi-fi topography with out counting on the mobile sign that will not attain all of the world communities. In order that’s one other nice quick profit as nicely. You’re proper.
– [Ryan] David, I actually recognize you taking the time to do that, this dialog, you shed some mild on some essential subjects and had nice insights to share with our viewers. The very last thing I need to ask you earlier than I allow you to go is for our viewers who needs to be taught extra about what you all have happening, possibly comply with up on this dialogue, chat additional, what’s one of the best ways they’ll try this?
– [David] I believe the simplest approach is to go to iveda.com, i v e d a dot com. And so far as software to be taught extra, I recommend not simply going to the web site and historically merchandise, that our viewers appears to be like at a few of our press bulletins inside our web site as a result of inside these announcement will present the true world perspective and purposes and work being achieved, leveraging IoT and AI.
So there’s, I invite all people to do go to and take a look at these.
– [Ryan] Unbelievable. David, thanks once more a lot for taking the time. Actually recognize it and excited to get this out to our viewers.
– [David] Thanks, Ryan, for having me, man. It was enjoyable.